Etymology and Ciphering is a group that has a direct focus on determining the true meaning of words and symbols. 

Our primary emphasis is to identify ancient and modern programming of the Mind, Body, and Soul. This we feel will allow us to gain a greater innerstanding and bearing in relation to the multiple realities that surround us, seen and unseen. 


The Anagram Engine

This tool will allow you to see all the posible spelling for a group of words. It is great to use on your name or longer words and sentences.

An online site that allows you to track a symbol by description. The site also contains a large database of symbols with loose interpretations. 

Sepher Sapphires

Book - Audio

This work will allow you to gain a great example of just how expansive the meaning and use of languages can be by highlighting the Hebrew Cabalah.

The Esoteric Alphabet


A look in to the English languages and the energy it evokes through shape.  

The Book of Talismans, Amulets, and Zodiacal Gems


A masterpiece that highlights ancient work that is being lost and the true origins of many Sigils used today. 

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Discussion Forum

Password 2 Replies

Im not sure if this has been discussed, I am very new to Etymology/trying to remember how it works.I was at work today and was typing some automation code to test the company's software when i noticed the word "password" but the textbox that it was…Continue

Started by Dang Sikfu. Last reply by ultraviolet Aug 20, 2015.

4D to 3D, Why things start off internal, and go external, a working theory. 3 Replies

4D to 3D, Why things start off internal, and go external, a working theory. While living in 3D, all things have to start internally in 4D as that is the dimension of time before they get here. They start a duplicate of what is already there, and…Continue

Tags: expansion, out, power, inner, 3D

Started by Karrade. Last reply by Charles I. Kenney, IV Feb 20, 2015.

Visualise Babylon. 26 Replies

Note to start - second page is more universal, breaking it down bit by bit!I wanted to start a thread everyone could contribute to, no matter how far fetched the ideas, just fire them off and we'll see if we make any progress. Please look at this…Continue

Started by Karrade. Last reply by Charles I. Kenney, IV Feb 20, 2015.

Backward System 9 Replies

Hi All,I haven't read all the posts on this forum and do not know if anyone has touched on the subject of backwards phenomenon when they changed the writing system from left to right. I was a preschool teacher and the children all naturally begin…Continue

Tags: dyslexia, writing, system, backwards

Started by Savitri Scathach Shivani. Last reply by Charles I. Kenney, IV Feb 20, 2015.

Phoenician Aleph 5 Replies

Has anyone found that the original letter for Aleph (A) written in Phoenician is actually 2 Xs that meet at the end?  Is it possible that the Aleph of the Sumerians actually represented the Cow to represent the feminine energy. The Matrix…Continue

Started by Stacey Palmer. Last reply by AM Oct 23, 2014.

About right and left 18 Replies

I've been wondering this for a while now, so I thought someone might shed some knowledge on the etymology of right and left. Particularly, how most people are brought up to be right handed ( or maybe it's in their genetics) and how we say the…Continue

Tags: left, right, ciphering, etymology

Started by Tyrone. Last reply by Michael Fong Oct 3, 2014.

DIAGONAL 2 Replies

di·ag·o·nal[dahy-ag-uh-nl, -ag-nl] adjective1.Mathematics .a.connecting two nonadjacent angles or …Continue

Started by KFive. Last reply by Tay Aug 4, 2014.

SAT NAM 7 Replies

Wholeness all! For a few years, I was practicing Kundalini Yoga and after the close of each practice, we students chanted SAT NAM.  Which the teacher instructed that meant, "the truth is your identity."  Today, I was listening to the show that Sevan…Continue

Started by Emily Banko. Last reply by Samuel Adam Alder Apr 11, 2014.

The One People's Public Trust 13 Replies

Greetings Dear Ones, I'm posing my question here in this forum as it seems I am having difficulty deciphering this idea and discerning whether this could be true. . . Could TOPPT be real and could their filings have any real effect on TPTB or (as…Continue

Started by Lezli. Last reply by Tyrone Ray Feb 14, 2014.

Fortune, For-tune, everything is a melody. 1 Reply

For-tune, everything is a melody. If you've been following the study group talks from Sevan on everything being a harmony, I thought i'd give you a quick shortcut to wealth or abundance in your life. Playing your tune, or being for the tune, on…Continue

Tags: orchestra, life, harmony, melody, for

Started by Karrade. Last reply by Zen Alchemist Oct 9, 2012.

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Comment by Samuel Adam Alder on May 19, 2014 at 4:31am

Loving the discussion about lead, I also have an offering on it; Lead is a double word, meaning leader and the metal lead because it is an indication to the alchemical language and knowledge, the first thing the awakening being looks for is teachers and leaders, i remember hearing also that things compress into lead, and that lead does not conduct sound very well and it is poisonous, for more general info dictionaries are always great: in italian the word for lead poisoning is saturnismo... can't get more blatant than that! :D

Comment by Carlos Cruz on May 18, 2014 at 11:57am

An anagram for Lead is Deal.

Comment by Zen Alchemist on May 18, 2014 at 8:03am

Hey Mark.  Since most of our language is backwards(words), the ability to convey something is often polar of its intended meaning.  As far as LEAD goes, there is much too un-veil.  Lead is used in #2 PENcils.  Lead is the lowest 'base' of the 7 traditional metals, and has much to do with Saturn.  Lead also was used to make BULLetts. 

The meaning you seek within lead is occulted by expectations that you think lead should have.  Lead does lead as you suggest, but just not in a 'positive' or expanding consciousness type way - it leads down and pulls 'negatively'.  So, it does in fact lead somewhere and to the lower base areas of thought and being. 

To pull apart each letter may unmask some more, but this should be a solid start for you... If you want me to uncover some more for you, let me know.


Comment by Bruxby on May 18, 2014 at 7:38am

yes i think you may be right in your intuition mark. i could just guess and infer that the L in lead refers to elohim. the ea refers to enki from sumeria and d for division. however that is just a guess. hope you find your answer ;)

Comment by Mark Mays on May 17, 2014 at 11:05am

can someone explain the word lead and how a base metal which i assume is not good at conducting energy, can mean to guide or conduct others?!

Comment by Eddie Endriss on April 16, 2014 at 11:02pm
Similar to the Hebrew alphabet and the 6 point star? Please respond publicly as I am curious also :) thx
Comment by Darion Alexander on April 16, 2014 at 6:20pm

if anyone can shed more light on this for me mssg me.., 

Comment by Darion Alexander on April 16, 2014 at 6:19pm

P R K   ,  E H F L I ,  M N V X Z A ,  U J , C D G Q O  ,    T Y ,   S


I was sitting down .. and something clicked in my mind and was like type this out... ...


now I'm not done reading the book called the "Esoteric Alphabet " yet... ,   but the more I look at these symbols.. makes me wanna break them down a bit..


now  i'm sure you can already see a  bit of an evolution within each group...,   the thing i'm noticing is  if you got a sheet of paper.. and played around with the Angles on each letter a bit. it would form something... 

looks like all letters are pieces of a cube of some sort.... pieces to a bigger picture..,    

Comment by Kellyn Jeanne on April 13, 2014 at 4:59pm

Could anyone tell me anything about the word "THE"??  Would love to know any thoughts of this one, thank you!

Comment by Samuel Adam Alder on April 11, 2014 at 2:01am

I actually posted a discussion dedicated to this but it hasn't been approved yet, here's a good resource for looking up word affixes and


some more affixes/prefixes/suffixes:



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