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Permalink Reply by KFive on April 4, 2013 at 6:26pm

Hello friend,

My level of understanding is that Iodized Salt is straight up no good.

Pink Himalayan Rock Salt is an alternative if you still want to use Salt.

It all depends on where you're at on your journey...  do what you can when you can.  Sevan says something that I think a lot of us tend to slightly overlook and that is "we are what we eat".

If you need it, ask yourself why. If you don't need it also ask yourself why ;)

Wholeness Lawson,

KFive

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Permalink Reply by Lawson on April 5, 2013 at 1:21am

Hello kfive

thanks for you correspondence brother, yes i absolutely do not use any of those salts, opt for celtic sea salt when i use salt.

yes i innerstand that, right on we are.

great some clarification for me thanks friend,

wholeness

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Permalink Reply by Zen Alchemist on April 5, 2013 at 10:08am

Hey Radiant Hue-mans!

Funny that this is the second post in a row that I recently had thoughts/conversation/dreams with...

Here is a portion of something I had sent to another journeyman on salt.  I did also get into Iodine, a bit of Halogen/Halides, but will save that if anyone is interested.  

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Have you ever heard of Don Tolman?  He is beyond a hero to me, and probably, if not the most educated, brilliant scholar on the planet concerning health, he surely floats in rarefied airs of wisdom.   Here is a bit that he wrote about salt, and maybe you can either take some from this or dispute it and help me understand your thoughts.  As you say, "putting salt on a wound' is common phrase.  Well, that salt is cleaning and disinfecting the wound and speeding up the healing process.  It is also said, 'we are the salt of the earth'  or 'you are worth your salt'...  Salt was even used as currency, as I'm sure you know.  The body being an electro-magnetic system seems to require salt to function on not only a basic level, but a higher one...  Pure water doesn't conduct electricity and salt does not either.  If you put them together, magic - electrical conduction.  The brain functions entirely on these electrical connections being made.  As well, we could get into the soles of ones feet and souls and 'ohm's' etc. and the grounding effects of putting your feet on the ground/soil and the positive effects of jumping in the ocean - salt water... anyway, hope this can assist you, or you can deliver me some more.

Here is Don's take on it.

 

The Dirt on Salt (and water)

Salt is a vital substance for the survival of all living creatures, particularly humans.  Water and salt regulate the water content of the body.  Water itself regulates the water content of the interior of the cell by working it's way into all of the cells it reaches.  It has to get there to cleanse and extract the toxic wastes of cell metabolism.

Salt forces some water to stay outside the cells by balancing the amount of water that stays outside the cells.  There are two oceans of water in the body; one ocean is held inside the cells of the body and the other ocean is held outside the cells.  Good health depends on a most delicate balance between the volume of these oceans and this balance is achieved by salt - unrefined salt.

When water is available to get inside the cells freely, it is filtered from the outside salty ocean and injected into the cells that are being overworked despite their water shortage.  This is the reason why in severe dehydration people can develop an "edema" and retain water.

The design of our bodies is such that the extent of the ocean of water outside the cells is expanded to have the extra water available for filtration and emergency injection into vital cells.  The brain commands an increase in salt and water retention by the kidneys.  This is how we get an "edema" when we don’t drink enough water.

Initially, the process of water filtration and it's delivery into the cells is more efficient at night when the body is horizontal. The collected water, that mostly pools in the legs, does not have to fight the force of gravity to get into the blood circulation.

If reliance on this process of emergency hydration of some cells continues for long, the lungs begin to get waterlogged at night and breathing becomes difficult. The person needs to sit upright to sleep.  This condition is a consequence of dehydration.  However, you might overload the system by drinking too much water at the beginning.  Increases in water intake must be slow and spread out until urine production begins to increase at the same rate that you drink water.

When we drink enough water to pass clear urine, we also pass out a lot of the salt that was held back. This is how we can get rid of "edema" fluid in the body; by drinking more water - not diuretics, more water!

In people who have an extensive "edema" and show signs of their heart beginning to have irregular or very rapid beats with least effort, the increase in water intake should be gradual and spaced out, but not withheld from the body.  Naturally, salt intake should be limited for two or three days because the body is still in an overdrive mode to retain it.  Once the "edema" has cleared up, salt should not be withheld from the body.

Salt has many other functions other than just regulating the water content of the body.  Here are just some of the more vital functions of salt in the body:

1. Salt is most effective in stablizing irregular heart beats and is essential to the regulation of blood pressure(despite what we're told)
2. Salt is vital to for the clearance of the lungs of mucous (essential for asthma cases)
3. Salt is vital for the rapid healing of infection and viral overwhelm
4. Salt is vital for balancing sugar levels in the blood (an important element for diabetics)
5. Salt is vital for the generation of hydroelectric energy in the cells (the body's power source)
6. Salt is vital for the absorption of food particles through the intestinal tract
7. Salt is essential for preventing muscle cramps
8. Salt is critical for making the structure of the bones strong (osteoperosis is largely the result of a shortage of water and salt) 

.... then I continued on with a bit of etymology and such on salt, but i digress for the moment.

Hope that helps out in some way.

Cheers

-zen

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Permalink Reply by Lawson on April 6, 2013 at 4:42am

wow thank you for you for sharing, a lot of interesting data to ponder.

may i ask if you did read what that link spoke of?

it is certainly a tough topic to grasp, i get how it is conductive and i have used it in my distilled water to generate charge, but since reading this and other articles similar i am dubious as to what form is neccesary.

one excerpt from linked article;

Inorganic sodium chloride is not necessary for life. While it is true, the body does require sodium, it is only in the organic form that is usable. We obtain all the sodium that we require from our everyday fare of fresh fruits and vegetables.

here is also a q&a with the author of the book from which aforementioned info is sourced;

Is sea salt healthful? David Klein’s response: The major component of sea salt is sodium chloride, which is also the major component of table salt. Sea salt is touted as being healthier than table salt because the former has more trace minerals and the latter is heat processed. Nonetheless, sodium chloride in any form is toxic- it impairs all of our metabolic and cellular functions. Because it is toxic, the body retains water to dilute the toxicity so we don’t die. This is edema, and it can result in headaches and heart irregularity. When we are retaining water, the fluid balance in the body is out of balance and cellular transport is Impaired. The body needs to maintain the fluid pressure inside the cells at a specific ratio to the fluid pressure outside of the cells. When we have extra high fluid pressure outside of the cells as a result of salt eating, the cells are not able to efficiently transport normal metabolic wastes out of the cells, thus we become more and more toxic, leading to chronic fatigue and illness. Furthermore, the body needs to maintain specific concentration ratios of sodium to potassium inside and outside of the cells for proper functioning. A high salt diet leads to excess sodium becoming “locked into” cells, creating cellular dysfunction. This has been linked to many modern diseases, including cancer, diabetes, hardening of arteries, hypertension, kidney disease, nervous disorders, and osteoporosis.

well i am eager to here your discernment again friend as i am inclined to say now salt, other than from fruits and mainly vegetable (celery etc) source is the optimal supplement to stabilizing the cell health.

thanks agan, apreciate the feedback friends.

~lawson

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Permalink Reply by Zen Alchemist on April 6, 2013 at 8:29am

There is certainly on on-going debate about this, so I'll give my rationale on the subject from a few angles.  I had just read the original post and was more responding to the idea that salt is never good unless it is coming directly from plants...

Don Tolman who I have met and read his 1400 page Farmacist Desk Reference / watched his videos is by far and away, one of the most scholarly and well-educated people I have ever come across.  I'd put his knowledge and wisdom beyond Schauberger, and certainly beyond the everyday health 'guru', and probably in line with the brilliance of Walter Russell.  That being said, while I know all answers are found within, I'd encourage anyone with any type of health situation to spend an hour on the phone with him... 

There are salt hospitals (halotherapy) that are conducted across the globe with great results - which are salt mines.

While there may be debate as to Ghandi's tie's and purposes, he did bring millions? to the ocean to obtain free salt that the British were trying to tax people for - as salt seems to be a staple of vegetarians diet.

I plainly disagree with the idea that animals don't seek out salt and that if they do, they aren't 100% correct all the time.  Look at deer or other animals - put a 'toxic' block of rock salt in their locale and watch them come to it and lick it.  Goats climb impossible mountain slopes to search out minerals and salts in which to lick.  Look at at dog lick the salt from your leg after you are sweating...

As above, so below.  The micro/macro view.  If outside of us we see salt, including in the oceans, shouldn't our ocean have the same?  The planets could be viewed as mineral kingdoms which in turn show our connections in our brain - which without, we become swept into the abyss with no 'points' from which we can triangulate our experiences. This is obviously just conjecture but something to consider.

Celery's food Signature - Sign of Nature.  Same sodium level as bones - looks like a bone, snaps like a bone.... Surely, we can find the salt we need in the plants we consume, but we must consider people's locale, as all plants/vegetation isn't found in every location, so it'd seem to lend to the idea that every location will give you all you need, just in a different format.  People that live near the equator are not eating tubers - as their nutrients would come more perfectly from fruits, and that is what there climate offers, yet if you go to the northeast US, you will find snow and fires ablaze where the climate will provide tubers which will last all winter, and be eager for you to put it in a soup or stew above a hot fire.  Plus the breakdown of the starches.... 

My point here is that, if it is in your location, then it is probably a great adjunct to your health strategy.  Since we live in a world that has Amazon.com - we can get practically anything we want/need to add to are arsenal of health.  And, surely the long lived and beautiful cultures of the Asian's especially the island of Japan have been consuming large quantities of fish/salt/iodine.  These have been staples of their diets as they have a coast line that offers them these things in abundance, along with mushrooms. 

Salt Scrubs for the skin have been used thousands of years.  I can always notice an improvement in my skin when I use it.  Salt is naturally occurring, it preserves food and when used as an ingredient in alchemy with cabbage or pickling, you see that you get a living fermented food that offers abundance to your internal living system, as 'ferment's in all forms are tremendous offerings to your temple.  This would lead us to Honey/Mead/Beer and the likes, but that isn't in the realm of salts, so we will leave that for another time.

While I don't claim that I 'know' for certain that salt from the ocean/mines is 'good' for your development, it 'seems' to be.  Between animals hunting it out (as well as seeking clay) the language associated with it "salt of the earth/ worth your weight in salt / it was currency) and the most basic thing - the general feeling of 'joy/wonder/wow' that goes along with putting a bit on my tomatoes or in my soup... I am inclined to see it as a benefit.  

There is more I may add to this later, but hopefully this adds to the discussion.

Cheers

-Zen

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Permalink Reply by White Knight on April 8, 2013 at 6:55pm

Hey Lawson,

I think himayalan salt is the best way to go because it has 84 minerals and iodized has 4, non iodized, 3. Even more over non iodized salt has been linked to being the number one reason for newborn mental ability deficiencies showing you how important these minerals are. Salt unlike sugar conducts electricity and anything that holds high amounts of electricty is good for a electric body. However the one thing I would caution is to keep salt to a minimum. Many foods like junk foods and even vegetables have sodium content. The national health of america recommends only having 1.2 teaspoon of himalyan salt in general. The body cells function on very little salt but it is enought to keep them going so yes it is vital but in small quantities 

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